![]() All properties of Delta Pokémon that are not mentioned in this section are the same as that of their non-Delta counterparts.There were a whole swath of Pokémon who could achieve this, but not reliably. Seed Flare deterred any and all walling threats, preventing them from reliably countering Shaymin. Earth Power kept Heatran at bay, which was rather unique since Heatran is known for countering a host of prominent Grass types within the tier. Finally, Shaymin's third moveslot would be dedicated to the user's choice of Hidden Power Ice or Hidden Power Fire. The decision between the two was critical, because it was essentially choosing what could and what could not counter Shaymin. ![]() Selecting HP Ice meant Shaymin could stop Dragonite, Zapdos and Flying types in general from easily dealing with it. However, HP Ice left Shaymin wide open to Jirachi, Scizor and to a lesser extent Forretress, who could now switch into it effortlessly and win. To rectify that problem, HP Fire could let Shaymin take them out if they tried haphazardly switching in. Unfortunately, Dragonite, Zapdos and the majority of Flying types would now counter Shaymin once it revealed its hand with HP Fire. Given that none of these threats can counter Shaymin unless it has a certain moveset, it does not have any counters in the strictest sense. However, depending on its chosen moveset, Shaymin would need team support for whatever counters it did find itself being plagued by. Roserade and Shaymin had so much in common, that it should be clear to see how and why they competed with one another. However, Roserade was very slightly superior in most ways to Shaymin. ![]() Roserade's support movepool was far superior, mainly due to its access to Spikes and Sleep Powder, which made it a better pick for most balanced and some stall teams than Shaymin. Roserade's significantly higher Special Attack and secondary Poison typing also meant it was mostly more threatening offensively than Shaymin was. Roserade also possessed the Technician ability, amplifying its coverage moves and making it difficult to wall. This meant that Shaymin's ability to wallbreak with Seed Flare was less consistent and generally less effective overall than Roserade, making it generally superior on offense and support as well. Thus, the existence of Roserade made using Shaymin somewhat questionable most of the time. This was unfortunate, as Shaymin otherwise had the tools to be a no doubt top tier threat in fifth generation UnderUsed. Shaymin was once again a very solid pick for UU at the generation's beginning. However, due to the strong competition it received along with the state of the meta, Shaymin did not receive enough usage to be natively UU, so it dropped to RarelyUsed. There, heated debate constantly took place regarding whether or not Shaymin was balanced enough to remain in RU. It was hands-down the best Pokémon in the tier, and Seed Flare exponentially reduced the reliable counterplay towards it by letting Shaymin sometimes defeat would-be checks with luck.Īs luck is inherently uncompetitive, this was the main basis in arguing against Shaymin being allowed in the tier.
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